Friday, May 20, 2016

Jim W. Dean -- Another plane down – Here we go again

Another plane down – Here we go again
By Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor on May 20, 2016


Where were the Israeli ships?

Where were the Israeli missile ships when the plane went down?

Well, you just can’t make this stuff up. Did someone decided to do a double dip on Egypt with another plane down, this time over water where evidence is much harder to recover?

From past examinations we have learned these incidents are almost never done randomly as to the timing, but tied to a current or upcoming event.

Confusion is always part of the plan, and hence we had the false report of plane debris found off some Greek island, very strange for a flight from France to Egypt. And like the last Egyptian plane lost, we had authorities there initially confirming and then unconfirming some of the early reports.

And Gordon Duff, Senior Editor:

Our sources tell us that Donald Trump’s announcement that he knows who shot down the Egyptian plane has quite a story behind it.  What if Donald is financially vulnerable, a lifetime of dirty deals, bankruptcies and having others handle things for him while he judges beauty contests and plays on TV?

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What if Sheldon Adelson, the Vegas gambling boss that bankrolls Israel’s Likudists, those we believe behind 9/11, the Hebdo killings, the illegal Bush presidency and so much more, came to the aid of Trump, who had convinced many he was willing to stand up to Israel?

What if Trump, being who he is, a blowhard out of his depth, got read in on how Israel could use one of its Barak 8 missiles, recently tested in the Eastern Mediterranean on on the INS Lahav, decided to do a repeat on the MH17 downing that some, those with good sources, believe Israel may have arranged as well, a “plane to plane” shootdown with a pair of Kiev fighters vectored into MH17  by an Israeli AWAC flying out of Azerbaijan?

Trump says more planes will fall. His new source of course is Adelson’s boys in Tel Aviv.

Israeli Navy to begin installing Barak 8 on Sa’ar 4.5 corvettes

Yaakov Lappin, Tel Aviv – IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly

Israel is to convert its Sa’ar 4.5 missile corvettes so that they can operate the Barak 8 missile-based air defence system Source: Wikipedia Commons

The Israeli Navy will soon begin a conversion programme for its Sa’ar 4.5 missile corvettes to enable them to be fitted with the Israel Aerospace Industries’ (IAI’s) Barak 8 missile-based air defence system, a senior naval source in Israel said on 7 February.

The conversion programme, due to be completed within two to three years, will see all the Sa’ar 4.5 ships fitted with Barak 8 launchers and a variant of IAI’s Elta EL/M 2248 MF-STAR radar.

The conversions of the Sa’ar 4.5 ships come as the navy expects to complete upgrades to the heavier Sa’ar 5 corvettes within a year, enabling all of them to use the Barak 8. Currently, the system is installed on one Sa’ar 5 vessel, INS Lahav , which carried out a live-fire trial in November.
Jim and Gordon continued …

As always, the anguished families, hoping for a mircale

As always, the anguished families, hoping for a miracle

Cairo had initially confirmed the Greek wreckage report and then the Greeks reported that the debris seen earlier was conclusively not from a plane. So one wonders how Cairo had confirmed it was, if that report really came from Cairo and not maybe from someone else hacking their communications.

This morning we seem to have reliable confirmation in an areas north of Alexandria, debris, floating seat cushions, body parts, an organized search radius and the beginning of the hunt for the black boxes. But there the plot thickens.

Out of the gate comes Presidential race horse Donald Trump to take the lead on the pole. He claims he already knows who took the plane down (but won’t tell us), claiming it was terrorists, but then has more. He tells us there are going to be more shot down, and goes further still. He says this will trigger a world wide recession because everyone will be afraid to fly, a recession like we have never seen.

So, what do we have here? Is it just Trump being his usual undignified and unpresidential self by ambulance chasing any news event he can to get some free publicity? But why would he be doing this now when the nomination is sewn up, and being so aggressive on this Egyptian plane story? What other motivations could there be?

On the list of things to check, always high up, is money…has some recently arrived or is some being sought where one might want to prove their future worth? Right away we have Shelly Adelson’s promised $100 million, who many view as an international hoodlum capable of just about anything.

Adelson also is an uber-supporter of Netanyahu and the Likud Party in Israel and has all the government and non-government contractor security and intelligence people standing in line wanting to get on his payroll by being “useful”. Israel has been getting slowly squeezed by factions of the EU and international community by their growing outspokeness  on the stalemate on the West bank and the settlements, getting a little too uppity as some might put it.

That brings us to a very strange May 18th Reuters story about a new offshore Iron Dome missile interceptor system completing a  successful live fire testing two weeks ago, claiming to have been designed to protect it off shore gas platforms  off the southern coast of Israel-Gaza, where several short range target “ballistic missiles” were fired from “a moving boat”.

The key to an iron come is not some much the missiles, but the radar system and software to run it

The key to an iron come is not some much the missiles, but the radar system and software to run it.

But we noticed a few odd things here. Such a “system”, the term they use, would have been better situated on an off shore platform itself versus a boat to defend against the bottle rockets fired from Gaza. And the claims that the underwater gas pipelines could be vulnerable to what is effectively mortar fire is of course ridiculous. So that hoax story was put out as a diversion for what the real purpose for what will be a very expensive weapons platform will be for.

And two, the real Iron Dome they want us to believe they are talking about is the one that required two Aegis Destroyers to be able to triangulate targeting an incoming missile. One boat by itself cannot do this. So someone is pulling somebody’s leg here.

The new ground based Aegis system in Romania

The new ground based Aegis system in Romania

The proof lies further north up in the Black Sea, where the same issue existed. Two Aegis destroyers with their powerful long range radars. Due to the limitations of how many ship the US is allowed to have there on one Aegis was usually there, which would be pointless for it’s key assigned defense role which requires two.

But if another had been installed like three years ago in Romania, that would complete the pair needed to provide the defense capability that the billions spend on the US’s 26 Aegis destroyers. That would make the recent announcement of of the Romanian base going operational just a formality.

Was it actually operational several years before? Let’s go back to the USS Donald Cook incident in the Black Sea, where its electronics were taken down via the electronic warfare pod on the lone unarmed Russian SU bomber fly over. That would have taken one of the two radars needed out, leaving the land based system ineffective.

Russia was showing the US that it was aware of the game being played by the operational system on land, and could take the water based component down if needed. A big stink was not made of it then by the US as the Russians could have released the news of the operational system in Romania.

USS Donald Cook
USS Donald Cook

In closing we now have an Egyptian airliner going down within the vicinity of this new offshore Israeli Iron Dome operational  area which is manned by inexperienced crews. We know it does not work unless there are two radar stations yet the test claims there was only one.
We have heard not a shred of information that the Israelis have developed radars on par with the Aegis, but would have wanted to because during the last Gaza turkey shoot Obama pulled both US ships out of there which is why Israel’s claimed 90% hit rate was baloney.

What they were calling hits were all the detonations of the missiles that missed, a safety feature, but where the big bang being logged up as a hit. Missile tests have always been reported as successful if doing otherwise was deemed to hurt national security in anyway.

The US Patriot missiles were way more ineffective that reported, which is why new version after new version keep coming out, all more cost plus profits for the manufacturer.

The Aegis radar is a very expensive system. Have we given ours technology to the Israelis, or have they gotten it like they have so much of our military tech, via espionage? This has gone on all the way back to the 1980’s when 50% of the FBI’s counter intelligence resources were consumed in blocking the Israelis who were stealing everything they could to make and market internationally, or to resell the technology to the Soviets or Chinese.

The last Egyptian plane went down when Israel was holding a large joint air combat exercise with a number of NATO countries where the plane was within range of those exercises.  This was totally ignored by mass media in its reporting. Who do we know that has a history of not only doing terrorist attacks by making money on them in the futures markets by knowing what commodities will be going down after such an attack?

It happened with the airline stocks after 9-11, and with no prosecutions or even an arrest. And we see it happening with multiple gas and oil pipelines are blown up in one week to disrupt supply. These suspect list as to who have the logistics ability to pull off such stunts is a short one, and it does not include Jihadis.

We will pray that the black boxes can be recovered but it appears the wreckage is 10,000 feet down. Is that just a coincidence, also?

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